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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    I assume that the returns are based on successfully filled limit orders only. That is, limit orders that are placed at the open that DO NOT get filled are excluded. Is my assumption correct. thx, bz
    These returns are the true life official track records. All actual trades heve been executed at the indicated prices since being online.
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    Billy, thanks for the reply, but being a rather novice trader, I'm still a little confused. After getting the ROBOT signals before the market opens each day, I place a limit order. Sometimes it gets filled, sometimes it doesn't eg. market gaps up and never looks back. If I continue this same procedure, am I matching the ROBOT, assuming I manage my stops in line with the ROBOT as well? Moreover, is my procedure correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    Billy, thanks for the reply, but being a rather novice trader, I'm still a little confused. After getting the ROBOT signals before the market opens each day, I place a limit order. Sometimes it gets filled, sometimes it doesn't eg. market gaps up and never looks back. If I continue this same procedure, am I matching the ROBOT, assuming I manage my stops in line with the ROBOT as well? Moreover, is my procedure correct?
    You can only match the robot performance by following the recommended procedure which is to invest 100% of your allocated capital in the initial trade of each new signal, when a limit order – or better - has been executed. Then you must use the robot trailing stop.
    The robot never trades secondary entries and they are excluded from the track record. You are on your own risk management for all secondary entries.
    Billy

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    Buzzman,

    Let me take a crack at answering your question.

    The only position the the Robot counts for it's performance is the first entry that gets filled - all others are considered secondary entries that are up to you to manage risk, stop limits, exits, etc. So, if you want to mimic the Robot as reflected in the performance table, you need to only buy the initial entry and ignore all other signals until that initial entry closes. Closes to the initial position can come from conflicting LT/ST stats, stop limit or MF signal.

    Harry

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    I really appreciate your efforts to help me. And I'm sorry to be so naive or just plain dumb, but my question doesn't relate so much to the ROBOTS performance but more to my entry procedure. If upon receiving a buy signal from the ROBOT, I place a limit order at the beginning of the next day and it doesn't get filled, do I just wait for the next buy signal opportunity because I'm assuming the ROBOTS buy limit order did not get filled either. Or do I take the next days ROBOT settings? I guess I'm asking how the ROBOTS order gets placed to meet the performance numbers if it doesn't get filled at the beginning of the next day.

    I realize most everyone on this site is very experienced and I am so sorry to be asking such a dumb questions, but I love this process and this site, and I need some guidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzman View Post
    I really appreciate your efforts to help me. And I'm sorry to be so naive or just plain dumb, but my question doesn't relate so much to the ROBOTS performance but more to my entry procedure. If upon receiving a buy signal from the ROBOT, I place a limit order at the beginning of the next day and it doesn't get filled, do I just wait for the next buy signal opportunity because I'm assuming the ROBOTS buy limit order did not get filled either. Or do I take the next days ROBOT settings? I guess I'm asking how the ROBOTS order gets placed to meet the performance numbers if it doesn't get filled at the beginning of the next day.

    I realize most everyone on this site is very experienced and I am so sorry to be asking such a dumb questions, but I love this process and this site, and I need some guidance.
    If you place the recommended limit order and it is not filled, the robot’s order will neither be filled. You will see the position of the robot on its page the next day.
    You then must enter the exact same new limit price and setup than the robot for the next day. Note that If the robot can enter at a better price than the limit, it will adjust its initial stop price proportionally.
    Billy

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    Buzzman,

    Keep asking questions. We were all there at some point, I myself have a ways to go on the learning curve.

    We are all here to either become or help others become better traders. The worst thing you can do is lose money by being hesitant to ask a question.

    Harry

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    Harry, thanks much for the patience and understanding and Billy I finally get it, thank you.
    Please indulge me for one final dumb question today, I promise.

    Looking at the performance numbers for the IWM trades (avoiding neutral signals) I see that the exit price is always in the area of 3.25 to 3.5% from the highest high or lowest low over the holding period of the trade when the reason is SL (stop loss). But when the reason was MF on the 8/24 to 8/31 trade, the exit price was only .016 away from the hightest high during that period. Is there an MF signal during the day?

    How does the ROBOT manage stops?

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