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    Uncertainty With High Probabilities – July 29, 2011

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    The IWM robot entered a new long position at the open (79.96) yesterday. Make sure to adjust your stop at 78.28 to take the actual entry price into consideration. The robot’s indicative stop on the robot page is always in case of an entry at the exact limit price, but the actual stop must be adjusted for the actual execution price.

    After some kind of hopeful dead cat bounce that stalled at the 2-day moving VWAP (blue line), IWM came back to the starting block and right above the same 200 dma (79.51) support confluence with WS2 (79.82). New weekly and monthly pivots will be in place on Monday and can change the floor support/resistance outlook significantly, so I won’t expand much on the current multi-pivot setup. Under normal market conditions, the 200-day moving average shouldn’t give up easily after such oversold conditions where IWM lost 5% in just four days. But market conditions are not normal and remain uncertain in the context of the debt crisis political irresponsibility.

    As I took my breakfast this morning watching CNBC Europe, I was struck that the dozen of pundits interviewed and debating were UNANIMOUSLY in agreement about the US equity market: avoid and stay on the sidelines! This is the first day I saw such unanimity and it makes me wonder who’s left to sell? As Pascal mentioned in his daily IWM comment, the TEV extension on inversed ETFs is suggesting that large players who didn’t sell already are fully hedged on their remaining long positions. And that TEV extension is the last reason for the robot to refuse to sell and short this market.

    In spite of high uncertainty, probabilities of gains and success for a new long entry rose to a very strong ST/LT buy signal setting today. If you are a proponent of high probability opportunistic trading, this can be your day! You won’t find often a statistical 3-day gain of 2.71% with 81.3% odds for a winning trade. Pre-market is weak at time of writing, so a low entry on a gap down makes the prospects for gain even better. As a side note, there will be a POMO (QE Light) today, so liquidity will be plentiful on top of all the cash parked on the sidelines.

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    GDX was stopped out of its long position yesterday for a gain of 7.38% on this last trade. The robot could not find any edge for entering a new long or short position. The second chart below and comments are from the ETF Digest website.
    Billy

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    Billy,

    I may be wrong, but if I remember well it often appears that when the robot gives a very strong signal it is in the middle of a rather NOT comfortable situation, at least on an emotional level.

    Pascal is surely right when he says that we are at an infinitesimal distance from confirming the sell signal on the 20DMF, and very wisely suggests to keep a reduced position due to headline risk.

    Still, the robot gives a VERY STRONG buy signal... my question is: is there a way to know if past signals were somehow affected by headline risk?

    Or put another way: shouldn't the robot algorithm take into account such occurrences for the mere fact that "the price says it all"?

    Excuse me if my question sounds as a dumb one, but I remember having the same doubt on one of the similar past occurrences.
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    Behavioral investing and the Robot

    I've also noticed that the best (and worst) times to invest are at the times of greatest fear.

    Regardless, I think the Robots are operating correctly even with the current headline risk. If we get stopped out again, we get stopped out again.

    As for lightening up -- those following both Robots are already lightened up because of GDX being on the sidelines.

    Can't think of anything else that could be done here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Clontz View Post
    I've also noticed that the best (and worst) times to invest are at the times of greatest fear.

    Regardless, I think the Robots are operating correctly even with the current headline risk. If we get stopped out again, we get stopped out again.

    As for lightening up -- those following both Robots are already lightened up because of GDX being on the sidelines.

    Can't think of anything else that could be done here.
    Roberto, I agree with Tim.

    The robot is not a news or event predictor, but a follower of probabilities. Probabilities are never 100% and you can accumulate losses in the long run. But the robot is also programmed to limit losses to normal drawdowns.

    The alternative is to trade with your guts feeling or not trade at all.
    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    The robot is not a news or event predictor, but a follower of probabilities.
    I didn't mean I was worried about a potential loss, but I guess this is the answer to my question.

    Thanks to you both,


    Roberto

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    In my opinion, a major point to mechanical trading is trading with the probabilities particularly when emotions around you are running high (and it is not atypical for this to be the case when headline risk is elevated) and when you are also likely to be at least somewhat emotionally driven (as is currently the case). Incidentally, this is also often the time that mechanical trading provides one the greatest benefit and the largest gains (in my experience, anyway).

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