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Timothy Clontz
01-09-2013, 08:08 PM
From: http://market-mousetrap.blogspot.com/2013/01/01092013-clontz-study.html
(which is a follow up to: http://market-mousetrap.blogspot.com/2013/01/01092013-romer-study.html -- which I did not send in email because it contains two youtube videos).
The Romer study inspired me to do my own, using tax rate, tax revenue, and United States population data from 1940-2011.

I took the top marginal tax rate for every year from 1940 forward, then divided total revenues by population to get the per capita revenue for each year.

Then I took the per capita revenues and top tax rates for 5 year, 10 year, 20 year, and 30 year periods. I lumped them all together and sorted by the tax rate.

The following chart reflects the actual historical Laffer curve for the United States:


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I've never seen anyone do this before, so I had to do it myself.

Interestingly, the maximum revenue clusters between 30 and 40 percent, with drop offs on either extreme.

The average of 30 and 40 is, of course, 35, which ALSO corresponds with my optimal 35% for short term capital gains.

And, by smoothing the data a bit the maximum point of the curve is indeed 35.4% (i.e. 35%).

The Bush tax rates, across the entire spectrum, appear to have been deliberately optimized to bring in maximum government revenue.

This bodes ill for our fiscal troubles, now that Obama has abandoned the optimal revenue rates.

This is no time for right or left wing ideologues. With a 16 trillion dollar debt we need optimal tax rates, or it will be that much more difficult to get out of this mess.

Romney, it turns out, was wrong. His proposal to lower the rates below 35% would have brought in less revenue. Unfortunately Obama was also wrong. His action to raise rates above 35% will bring in less revenue, AND damage the economy in the process.

grems8544
01-10-2013, 09:07 AM
Unfortunately Obama was also wrong. His action to raise rates above 35% will bring in less revenue, AND damage the economy in the process.

Tim, your curve doesn't show that to me. It shows a range of 35-39% (or so, just eyeballin') is the "optimal" range. Picking the exact peak is subject to interpretation, due to a number of reasons, but simply uncertainty in the collected data, as well as uncertainty in methods used to collect the data, over the period 1940-2011.

Whether Obama is right or wrong is largely moot. Certainly, collecting higher revenues is one necessary path. I'm not going to engage in all the things right/wrong about the various proposals but with Obama coming in at the higher end of your range, and knowing that many of the tax cuts have been made permanent, I don't see that ANYBODY in charge, Repub/Dem/Indy, would have much choice except to go to the right on your flattop in terms of trying to get us out of this mess.

Good analysis overall. Thanks for taking the time to post this.

grems8544
01-10-2013, 09:09 AM
I'd also like to see the curve below 30% ... I think we would find that interesting. Specifically, the slope of the curves is of interest.

Regards,

pgd

Timothy Clontz
01-10-2013, 12:24 PM
Good questions! I was wondering the same thing.

Last night I worked on the data a bit more.

The 35% maximum point was a puzzle because it was the same as the maximum point on the idealized Capital Gains revenue curve I did in November.

The problem is that the idealized curve assumed no investor behavior change. That is, it assumed that you would make the same investments regardless of whether the capital gains rate were 1% or 100%. In other words, you'd still invest even if the government took ALL the money!

Ridiculous.

And yet...

...after I did the math it was correct.

So, a little blog preview.


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The graph above measures the percentage of capital gains taxes collected by the government from 1 to 100%, assuming there was NO CHANGE AT ALL to investor behavior. (The red line is the no behavior change curve; the blue line are actual per capita Federal Income Tax revenues at each percentage rate between 28 and 94%).

The time frame is agnostic. I took 74 different time ranges (from 1 year, to 2 year average, all the way through 74 year average) and used them all.

To put them on the same scale I took each percentage rate's actual returns divided by the maximum potential returns reached at 35%. So, 35% = 1.

The Obama rate change from 35% to 43.80%, then, should collect approximately 86.78% of the revenue per capita that was previously collected -- on average (some years will be more and some less).

Art Laffer (and most Conservatives) argue that taxpayer behavior changes at different rates, and that there is a disincentive to work that will drive down taxes.

They're wrong. Historical income tax rates versus per capita revenue in fact follow the "no behavior change" curve almost perfectly.

The revenue DOES go down, however -- and this is where Liberals get it wrong. It's not that taxpayer BEHAVIOR changes, but that aggregate behavior changes as people simply run out of money. The government doesn't tax static income, but rather the churning of layers of income as economic activity progresses. So, your corporation gets taxed, but they pay you with what's left, and you pay the car dealer with what's left, and the grocery store... and THEY pay still other people with what's left until everyone runs out of spending money.

When you raise tax rates past 35%, people run out of money faster and economic activity has less iterations. You might still buy a car and groceries, but your grocery clerk may not be able to buy a car, so there is one less item to tax.

Total income for the country goes down, and therefore for the government.

In other words, the Liberals are right about the individual, but wrong about the revenue. Behavior does not deliberately change -- but the revenue goes down anyway.

In any case, I'll expand on this on my next blog entry, and probably give the raw data I used as well.

There are no historical data sets I could find for Federal income tax rates below 28% or above 94%, so the best I can do is to use my idealized Capital Gains curve as an analog for the slope.

PS -- you'll note that the 100% tax rate does NOT fall to 0% revenues, as Art Laffer speculated. And in fact there is good history for this. In the Soviet Union the tax rate was theoretically 100% (before theoretical redistribution), but the slope only terminates at 48.54% of the potential revenues that would have been raised at 35% (ie if per capital revenues would be 10,000 dollars at 35%, they would be approximately 4,854 dollars at a 100% tax rate, instead of the 0 dollars Art Laffer suggested.