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Pascal
11-28-2011, 12:28 PM
There is still some slight accumulation.
We can also see that the OB/OS indicator crossed over the -90 level.
Technically, we have a buy signal, but only the close will confirm this.
I updated the gold sector. We can see that the MF is negative for this sector: large players are selling strength into gold miners.


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Pascal
11-28-2011, 03:26 PM
Selling has accelerated and the OB_OS indicator is back below -90


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pdp-brugge
11-29-2011, 01:34 AM
According to your post of 9:26 PM yesterday, I concluded that the buy signal on the 20DMF was not triggered.
Yet if I look now (7:30 AM) to the 20DMF page it tells me that it is long. This page is calculated based on the data of 16:00 PM.
The IWM Robot page also tells me that he is in buy mode and that the robot will go into in long trade as of the opening today.
I thought that a move up of the OB/OS signal that does not go above the -90% level did not count as a valid buy signal? Am I wrong here?
Is the 20DMF and the IWM Robot buy mode valid?

Billy
11-29-2011, 02:21 AM
According to your post of 9:26 PM yesterday, I concluded that the buy signal on the 20DMF was not triggered.
Yet if I look now (7:30 AM) to the 20DMF page it tells me that it is long. This page is calculated based on the data of 16:00 PM.
The IWM Robot page also tells me that he is in buy mode and that the robot will go into in long trade as of the opening today.
I thought that a move up of the OB/OS signal that does not go above the -90% level did not count as a valid buy signal? Am I wrong here?
Is the 20DMF and the IWM Robot buy mode valid?

Yes, it all happened in the last minute. Billy
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pdp-brugge
11-29-2011, 03:08 AM
Please excuse me for asking a novice question again

Is it now the intention that we place a market order at the opening?
Or do we place a limit buy order with a trigger @ 68.74

Billy
11-29-2011, 03:19 AM
Please excuse me for asking a novice question again

Is it now the intention that we place a market order at the opening?
Or do we place a limit buy order with a trigger @ 68.74

Yes, limit buy order @68.74 valid for one day only.

Billy

Adriano
11-29-2011, 03:25 AM
Billy/Pascal,
the IWM entry point is 1.50 % below yesterday's close, while UWM's is 11,18% below, well below Friday's close. Is that correct?

Billy
11-29-2011, 04:08 AM
Billy/Pascal,
the IWM entry point is 1.50 % below yesterday's close, while UWM's is 11,18% below, well below Friday's close. Is that correct?

Yes, there seems to be a bug for the indicative prices of entries and stops of related ETFs.
Pascal will check and update the page with correct indications.
We apologize for this problem.
Billy

Pascal
11-29-2011, 04:28 AM
Billy/Pascal,
the IWM entry point is 1.50 % below yesterday's close, while UWM's is 11,18% below, well below Friday's close. Is that correct?

Yes, you are right: the data was not correctly uploaded from Yahoo for UWM, TZA and TNA.
Thanks for having noticed it.

I corrected this.


Pascal

Riskslayer
11-29-2011, 06:28 AM
Hi Pascal,

In the recent description posted on how the 20DMF is used, I see the statement: "the time to go long is when these three conditions are in force: there's a been a direction change in OB/OS signal AND the OB/OS level is between -70 and -90 AND MF is positive"

The main page 20DMF page say MF: -0.64% at the 11/28/11 close.

How is this all interpreted so that 20DMF is in a BUY going into today's open?

Thanks,

Shawn

Pascal
11-29-2011, 06:32 AM
Hi Pascal,

In the recent description posted on how the 20DMF is used, I see the statement: "the time to go long is when these three conditions are in force: there's a been a direction change in OB/OS signal AND the OB/OS level is between -70 and -90 AND MF is positive"

The main page 20DMF page say MF: -0.64% at the 11/28/11 close.

How is this all interpreted so that 20DMF is in a BUY going into today's open?

Thanks,

Shawn

This means that the MF for the day must be positive: we needed to have had accumulation during the day.
This can be seen in the MF Strength being positive


Pascal

Pierre Brodeur
11-29-2011, 08:09 AM
Pascal,
In your comment you say: "Furthermore, any pull-back will force us into cash again, since we are close to the -90 level which would trigger the fail safe mechanism."

As Adriano says:

Billy/Pascal,
the IWM entry point is 1.50 % below yesterday's close ...

If IWM drops by 1.50% and independantly of the intraday move closes down by about this %, won't this trigger the fail safe?

PLEASE DELETE MY QUESTION. I just read Billy's comment and it clears up my question. Thank you

mklein9
11-29-2011, 02:08 PM
Yes, limit buy order @68.74 valid for one day only.

Billy

I'm sure this has already been considered and tested, but it struck me to wonder whether the pivot-based 3:1 R/R entry points are maybe less important when the LT edge is strong? In other words, when ST edges dominate then we are probably more in a mean-reversion environment, and the pivot-based entries are crucial. However, maybe when LT edges dominate, it matters somewhat less that we find an entry price that is optimal for mean reversion, and don't want to miss a larger trend?

Just idly wondering,

-Mike

jiplee
11-29-2011, 02:25 PM
Is there any place on the site that we can see the intraday chart of 20DMF during the day? Thanks

Jip

Pascal
11-29-2011, 03:06 PM
Is there any place on the site that we can see the intraday chart of 20DMF during the day? Thanks

Jip

You click on the 20DMF section of the EV database and scroll down.

This chart is updated a few times per day.

A RT version is not available as of now.


Pascal

Billy
11-30-2011, 12:02 AM
I'm sure this has already been considered and tested, but it struck me to wonder whether the pivot-based 3:1 R/R entry points are maybe less important when the LT edge is strong? In other words, when ST edges dominate then we are probably more in a mean-reversion environment, and the pivot-based entries are crucial. However, maybe when LT edges dominate, it matters somewhat less that we find an entry price that is optimal for mean reversion, and don't want to miss a larger trend?

Just idly wondering,

-Mike

Mike,
Both the LT and ST edges are computed using 3:1 RR multi-pivots entries. So these edges can only be achieved assuming that you enter exactly at the robot’s recommended 3:1 RR limit price. Robot’s edges can be further improved only when you enter at better prices, not worst ones.

If you review the pdfs on the IWM robot’s design and backtesting, the 3:1 RR multipivots rules have a neutral-to-positive impact on returns but lower considerably the drawdowns. They are an essential risk management component of the IWM robot’s LT risk-adjusted performance.
Billy

Pascal
12-02-2011, 12:31 PM
Rather weak MF today.


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